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March 22, 2012

“Your God’s Wrong”: Judge Erupts in Angry Tirade, Sends Pro-Life Activist Back to Jail

In Ontario:

“You don’t get it, do you? What’s the rule of law? You’re required to abide by it … You’ve lost the right as a citizen to be anywhere near an abortion clinic or to speak to an employee,” he said.

“You’re wrong and your God’s wrong,” he continued. “You have complete contempt … There is a right to (abortion) in this country … You don’t have a right to cause (abortion-seeking women) extra pain and grief the way you do.”

“[Abortion] is legal,” he continued, “that’s all you have to understand … You start causing people emotional pain and harm, you think that’s okay?”

He then asked Wagner whether she would stay away from abortion sites for three years as required by the proposed terms of probation.

“I will not,” Wagner replied firmly.

“Then you’re going to jail,” said Clements.

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Clements (the judge) said to Wagner (the defendant), “You appear to be governed by a higher moral order than the laws of our country.”


As Maundy Thursday and Good Friday approach, it reminds me of another trial, and other judges, long ago.

[1] Posted by Ralph on 3-22-2012 at 04:52 PM · [top]

“You appear to be governed by a higher moral order than the laws of our country.”

From what I understand, Canadian law has a fairly base concept of moral order.

[2] Posted by Nikolaus on 3-22-2012 at 07:04 PM · [top]

May God bless and strengthen Wagner.

[3] Posted by Jackie on 3-22-2012 at 07:52 PM · [top]

This judge and those who defend abortion are themselves under judgment and convicted. The sentence is merely temporarily stayed to see if they will repent and seek mercy. The Lord is not only just but merciful - unlike the false god whom they feed with the blood of their young.

May the Lord bless Mary Wagner and give her the grace to be a witness in jail at Paul was when he was imprisoned in Rome. At least Canada doesn’t behead folks for this crime.

[4] Posted by Doug Stein on 3-22-2012 at 10:50 PM · [top]

it seems to me that it’s the judge who doesn’t “get it”. I wonder how he’s going to explain that statement “your God’s wrong” to the Almighty Lord God of Hosts, the Creator of the universe, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, on the day when he has to give an account?

[5] Posted by fyffee on 3-22-2012 at 10:51 PM · [top]

We need to start formally recognizing Western Christian martyrs who are imprisoned or punished for standing for Christ.  It will honor those who witness to the truth of the Gospel and expose those guilty of Christian persecution.

And all state/government persecutors of Christians claim to be doing so under the color of law.

[6] Posted by Br. Michael on 3-23-2012 at 05:48 AM · [top]

RE: “You start causing people emotional pain and harm, you think that’s okay?”

Note the key thing in this article.  It’s the *causing people emotional pain and harm.*

Once *that* gets into the law over here in the US, guys, the party’s over.  Because of course *all* Christian beliefs about moral action, salvation, Christ, repentance, etc. “causes people emotional pain and harm.”

Heck, my belief that everybody should be trail running every day “causes people emotional pain and harm.”  My belief that we should all own handsome large dogs “causes people emotional pain and harm.”

At that point, you can no longer “say out loud” what you believe, or you will be charged with “causing people emotional pain and harm.”

[7] Posted by Sarah on 3-23-2012 at 09:15 AM · [top]

Mischief?  Handing out roses?  For that, a jail sentence?

What am I missing here?

[8] Posted by JuliaMarks on 3-23-2012 at 09:41 AM · [top]

The judge here has a crazy notion of what is causing the emotional pain and harm.  It’s not people like Wagner.  It is people like this judge that cause the emotional pain and harm by allowing the murder of unborn children to continue.

[9] Posted by Townsend Waddill+ on 3-23-2012 at 11:40 AM · [top]

So, then, I guess this judge would have said, in 1861, “Slavery is legal; that’s all you have to understand.”

[10] Posted by Nellie on 3-23-2012 at 08:25 PM · [top]

I should have said that if the judge were in the U.S. he would have said that!

[11] Posted by Nellie on 3-23-2012 at 08:27 PM · [top]

That judge judges by a different god indeed.

[12] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 3-24-2012 at 02:07 PM · [top]

The judge was correct when he said she needed to obey the law and that abortion is legal.  (What was it Jesus said about obeying earthly laws?)  What she really needs to do is to get on the bandwagon and have made NOT legal.  I really believe it should not be legal except in certain very restrictive circumstances.  We have plenty of unwanted children and to add to that is also not moral.

[13] Posted by catwrangler on 3-27-2012 at 04:50 PM · [top]

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