YOU MUST OBEY!!

Scary. And this is in Kansas! Christians had better unite and vote.

What about synagogues and mosques? And can you force a synagogue or mosque to rent out to a group that would have a hog roast take place on the premises? If not what logic would be used to not force the one but force the other?

[2] “If not, what logic would be used to not force the one, but force the other?”

Logic?  What is this “logic” you are talking about and where does it exist?

The mental image of the city of Hutchinson KS forcing a mosque (if they have one) to rent out its facilities for a same-sex wedding followed by a reception with a pig-picking and kegs of beer…

[3] The logic of arbitrary, self serving exercise of power.

Isn’t it amusing that human rights are being used to destroy human rights?

Of course, even the hardest-line conservative long ago accepted the premise this is based on, so it was really just a matter of time before the trap was sprung.  If you want to stop this, you have to stop hacking at the branches and start hacking at the roots of the problem.

The tune would change very quickly if every Christian on the Vanderbilt campus showed up at the local university gay activist club, demanded membership and called for elections of officers.

Oops, erase, got the wrong article, although the problem is the same:  Under the New Order, Christians cannot “discriminate” by excluding those who beliefs are contrary to theirs.

I cross-posted on this suject without realizing my fellow blogger had already covered the subject quite well.  My apologies to all.

This comment was posted by MicahelA on the cross-posted thread.  I am posting it here so it doesn’t get lost.  - Jackie

At least it is government doing it this time, not churches.  The government tries to force churches to do something against their fundamental beliefs, then government find that every Christian church (and often some of the non-Christian ones) are up in arms about it, and then government back off.

Its far worse when churches voluntarily take it upon themselves to force their members to do these things. Its not only revolting to watch, but it doesn’t impress unbelievers either - when they have been hit hard by life and are seeking truth, they don’t come looking for it in churches that compromise their fundamental values. 

The reports keep rolling in of church leaders indulging in self-destructive behaviour - the sort that empties churches.  I notice over on Episcopal Cafe that the cathedral in Providence Rhode Island held its final service last Sunday.

There is also a report about three bishops of North Carolina who are publicly opposing a state constitutional amendment which will confirm what everyone has always known to be the law anyway - that marriage is between a man and a woman (the bishops are said to be +Curry of North Carolina,  +Daniel of East Carolina, and +Taylor of Western North Carolina).  So these bishops have signalled to everyone that they are against the traditional view of marriage - do they really think this is going to keep parishioners in their pews?

And then (still on Episcopal Cafe) there is the discussion about TEC selling 815 and moving to Washington DC Cathedral (until somebody said they couldn’t afford that either and suggested Oklahoma).  Someone admitted “We have a terrible loan situation at 815” and someone else suggested moving to Virginia where there is lots of unused real estate (good point). Take a step back and its easy enough to see what it all adds up to: the things that the liberal Episcopalians love most, their “tolerance” and “liberality”, are the very things that are killing their church. But they can’t see it and they just keep going.- MichaelA