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April 26, 2012


When conservative Christians worry about the government forcing them to bow to the gay rights agenda, they are dismissed as paranoids. The Hutchinson (KS) Human Relations Commission is seeking to overturn that mental health diagnosis:

Religious liberty groups are blasting a proposed ordinance that would force churches in Hutchinson, Kan. to rent their facilities for gay weddings and gay parties.

The Hutchinson City Council will consider adding sexual orientation and gender identity to the protected classes in the city’s human relations code. They are expected to vote on the changes next month.

According to the Hutchinson Human Relations Commission, churches that rent out their buildings to the general public would not be allowed to discriminate “against a gay couple who want to rent the building for a party.”

Meryl Dye, a spokesperson for the Human Relations Commission confirmed to Fox News that churches would be subjected to portions of the proposed law.

“They would not be able to discriminate against gay and lesbian or transgender individuals,” Dye said. “That type of protection parallels to what you find in race discrimination. If a church provides lodging or rents a facility they could not discriminate based on race. It’s along that kind of thinking.”

So what could happen to churches in Hutchinson that refuse to accommodate gay parties or weddings?

“Unless the city council includes an exemption for churches, it would generate a discrimination complaint for the gay couple and it would be investigated,” Dye told Fox News. She said any churches found guilty of violating the law could be subjected to fines or other penalties.

Repeat after me: it isn’t paranoia if they are really after you.

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Scary. And this is in Kansas! Christians had better unite and vote.

[1] Posted by Nellie on 4-24-2012 at 11:40 AM · [top]

What about synagogues and mosques? And can you force a synagogue or mosque to rent out to a group that would have a hog roast take place on the premises? If not what logic would be used to not force the one but force the other?

[2] Posted by SpongJohn SquarePantheist on 4-24-2012 at 02:06 PM · [top]

[2] “If not, what logic would be used to not force the one, but force the other?”

Logic?  What is this “logic” you are talking about and where does it exist?

[3] Posted by Don+ on 4-24-2012 at 02:25 PM · [top]

The mental image of the city of Hutchinson KS forcing a mosque (if they have one) to rent out its facilities for a same-sex wedding followed by a reception with a pig-picking and kegs of beer…

[4] Posted by Ralph on 4-24-2012 at 02:35 PM · [top]

[3] The logic of arbitrary, self serving exercise of power.

[5] Posted by SpongJohn SquarePantheist on 4-24-2012 at 02:44 PM · [top]

Isn’t it amusing that human rights are being used to destroy human rights?

Of course, even the hardest-line conservative long ago accepted the premise this is based on, so it was really just a matter of time before the trap was sprung.  If you want to stop this, you have to stop hacking at the branches and start hacking at the roots of the problem.

[6] Posted by Jeffersonian on 4-24-2012 at 04:47 PM · [top]

The tune would change very quickly if every Christian on the Vanderbilt campus showed up at the local university gay activist club, demanded membership and called for elections of officers.

[7] Posted by Jim the Puritan on 4-25-2012 at 02:48 PM · [top]

Oops, erase, got the wrong article, although the problem is the same:  Under the New Order, Christians cannot “discriminate” by excluding those who beliefs are contrary to theirs.

[8] Posted by Jim the Puritan on 4-25-2012 at 03:04 PM · [top]

I cross-posted on this suject without realizing my fellow blogger had already covered the subject quite well.  My apologies to all.

This comment was posted by MicahelA on the cross-posted thread.  I am posting it here so it doesn’t get lost.  - Jackie

At least it is government doing it this time, not churches.  The government tries to force churches to do something against their fundamental beliefs, then government find that every Christian church (and often some of the non-Christian ones) are up in arms about it, and then government back off.

Its far worse when churches voluntarily take it upon themselves to force their members to do these things. Its not only revolting to watch, but it doesn’t impress unbelievers either - when they have been hit hard by life and are seeking truth, they don’t come looking for it in churches that compromise their fundamental values. 

The reports keep rolling in of church leaders indulging in self-destructive behaviour - the sort that empties churches.  I notice over on Episcopal Cafe that the cathedral in Providence Rhode Island held its final service last Sunday.

There is also a report about three bishops of North Carolina who are publicly opposing a state constitutional amendment which will confirm what everyone has always known to be the law anyway - that marriage is between a man and a woman (the bishops are said to be +Curry of North Carolina,  +Daniel of East Carolina, and +Taylor of Western North Carolina).  So these bishops have signalled to everyone that they are against the traditional view of marriage - do they really think this is going to keep parishioners in their pews?

And then (still on Episcopal Cafe) there is the discussion about TEC selling 815 and moving to Washington DC Cathedral (until somebody said they couldn’t afford that either and suggested Oklahoma).  Someone admitted “We have a terrible loan situation at 815” and someone else suggested moving to Virginia where there is lots of unused real estate (good point). Take a step back and its easy enough to see what it all adds up to: the things that the liberal Episcopalians love most, their “tolerance” and “liberality”, are the very things that are killing their church. But they can’t see it and they just keep going.- MichaelA

[9] Posted by Jackie on 4-26-2012 at 08:56 AM · [top]

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