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May 9, 2012

North Carolina: Full of Stoopid People

I saw a map today that purports to explain the vote for Amendment One in North Carolina. It seems that the only counties to vote against Amendment One, which defines marriage as being exclusively between a man and a woman, were those with significant universities:

Of course, this demonstration of the intellectual superiority of those who voted against Amendment One would be more impressive if it were correct:

Mecklenburg County had 92,503 people vote against Amendment One, resulting in 54 percent of the vote, according to the North Carolina State Board of Elections.

Buncombe (Asheville), Chatham, Dare (Outer Banks), Durham (Durham), Mecklenburg (Charlotte), Orange (Chapel Hill), Wake (Raleigh) and Watauga (Boone) counties all voted against Amendment One as well.

The map above has Guilford County (UNC-Greensboro, Greensboro College) and New Hanover County (UNC-Wilmington) voting against it, whereas the NC Board of Elections, as of 4:42 this afternoon, has both approving it by narrow margins. Meanwhile, Dare County at the coast—home to a branch campus of the College of the Albemarle, a community college—voted against it, and the map above has it approving it.

All hail our new Academic Overlords!

UPDATE: Forgot to mention—Amendment One also passed in Forsyth County (Wake Forest University), Pitt County (East Carolina University), and Jackson County (Western Carolina University). Those aren’t real universities, I’m sure. Or it may just be that they are surrounded by stoopid people.

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Yep, it’s not an updated map.  The home counties of UNC-Greensboro, UNC-Wilmington, and East Carolina University voted in favor.  The two mountain counties, despite lefty professorial and artsy residents, barely passed it (51%).  Only in Chatham County, the home of UNC-Chapel Hill, did the vote against surpass the statewide vote in favor.  Note that the heavily black counties of East Carolina were solidly in favor.  You don’t think the lefties who produced this commentary are, um, racist?  I don’t think so; they’re just ignorant. Pre-election polls showed 63% of African-American voters here in favor of the amendment.

[1] Posted by Katherine on 5-9-2012 at 05:19 PM · [top]

One correction, Katherine: UNC-Chapel Hill is in Orange County, though an awful lot of faculty lives in Chatham (the tax rates are lower, LOL). Orange County had by far the largest margin against by percentage.

PS—I used to live in Chatham County; it’s a lot more liberal now than it was when I was there in the 1980s, what with all those Chapel Hill lefties moving south.

[2] Posted by David Fischler on 5-9-2012 at 05:42 PM · [top]

And you think that being for gay marriage has nothing to do with pointy-headed elitism?

I firmly believe that it’s entirely possible to have common sense educated out of a person.

[3] Posted by Bill2 on 5-9-2012 at 06:09 PM · [top]

The map is just fodder for those people who ‘want to believe’ anyway. (It confirms their theory about the rest of us, so why bother to check? And that’s not ignorance? But I digress.)

And even if the above map were true (which we all know it isn’t), what would it prove?

Nothing. Two reasons why:

(1) There is plenty of ignorance (a sort of groupthink) at colleges and universities…it just looks different (kids in leather coats talking about animal rights, graduate students talking about litter and evil corporations while taking a sip from their paper Starbucks cup, etc.). In my experience, liberal academics think that as long as they don’t admit to a mistake or being wrong on the details of an issue, they themselves are not ignorant because, unlike us, they still have the ‘correct’ worldview. We can be right on all the details and still be ignorant. (0);

(2) There are plenty of people in those so called ‘ignorant’ counties who have college degrees from these so called ‘intellectual’ centers of learning. If the voters they have educated are voting ignorantly, then what does that say about the effectiveness of their teaching?

[4] Posted by All-Is-True on 5-9-2012 at 06:17 PM · [top]

Dear Bishop Curry and pals: How does asserting that people who disagree with you are stoopid respect the dignity of every human being?  Horrors -Have you broken your baptismal covenant?!?!?!?!?

[5] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 5-9-2012 at 07:14 PM · [top]

Thanks, David.  Our two daughters graduated from Chapel Hill; I never look at the county line signs.  Professors, both UNC and Duke, live in Chatham in large numbers, and the artsy crowd as well.

[6] Posted by Katherine on 5-9-2012 at 07:31 PM · [top]

“(kids in leather coats talking about animal rights, graduate students talking about litter and evil corporations while taking a sip from their paper Starbucks cup…)”


[7] Posted by B. Hunter on 5-10-2012 at 01:44 PM · [top]

Wait, isn’t the Left braying constantly about how it wants real democracy?  If so, what was this?  And now they don’t want it?

[8] Posted by Jeffersonian on 5-10-2012 at 04:03 PM · [top]

Jeffersonian, If the results of an election or any other democratic process doesn’t go their way that is not democracy.  That is ignorance at work. When results favor them, THAT is democracy.  Just gotta be careful with words, ya know!

[9] Posted by SC blu cat lady on 5-10-2012 at 04:42 PM · [top]

Well I have a PhD in theoretical physics and I would vote for the amendment, preventing same-sex marriages.

Even setting aside religious motivations, the term “marriage” and its predecessors have a very long heritage of referring to commited male-female relationships.  The term expanded to allow polygamy in some cultures, but over the past 4000 years has never included same-gender couplings until very recently. 

I would like to refer to myself as “aboriginal” - it is a noble concept to see oneself as part of the original peoples, with their deep roots in this land.  And it seems exclusionary to refuse to allow me to use that word, just because my ancestors came from England and Iceland.  I propose that we should change the English language to allow all people to declare themselves “aboriginal,” and to be recognized as such under the law.  That would be a step in the direction of equal rights for everyone!

But but but, you might interject, if we call everyone “aboriginal” then the very concept of what it means to be aboriginal will be lost!

Exactly.  And that is the true objective of these same-sex-marriage campaigners: they want to erase the concept of traditional marriage, and replace it with… what?  Well that is a hard question to answer, because when you extend the definition to include same-sex couples then sure as shootin’ you will have to extend it include polygamous relationships.  And then, inevitably, you will have to extend it to allow people to be in multiple marriages at once, etc etc. until getting married means something like being “friended” on Facebook.

So as you can tell, I think these campaigners are intent upon cultural vandalism rather than human rights. 

And I didn’t quote the Bible once.

[10] Posted by Michael D on 5-10-2012 at 06:52 PM · [top]

I just saw this blog post about how African-Americans voted 2 to 1 for Amendment One. As the subtitle says, ‘so much for the “bigotry” argument.’

[11] Posted by All-Is-True on 5-11-2012 at 10:29 AM · [top]

I live in Pasquotank County (Elizabeth City) in northeastern NC, which demographically is nearly split 50-50 (black-white) and is home to what was one of the historically Black colleges—now Elizabeth City State University.  We are in one of the minority Congressional districts (no Republican was even on the primary ballot this year).

So how did we do on the Marriage Amendment in Pasquotank County?

There were 5,335 votes cast in the county and those For the Amendment were 3,456 while those against were 1,879.  That comes to 64.8% For—even higher than the percentage across the state.

I don’t have the numbers, but I can assure you that Obama won handily here in 2008. 

Does he have a problem this November?  Absolutely.

Did he make it worse by his calculated coming out of the closet?  Absolutely.

[12] Posted by hanks on 5-12-2012 at 02:17 PM · [top]

Thanks Hanks for letting everyone know.  Quite interesting that in such a heavily Democratic county you think Obama is in big trouble this November.  Hmmm. definitely is heading into an interesting election this fall. Perhaps Obama is not such a shoo in as the leftist liberals want to hope.

PS I did not vote for Obama in 2008!

[13] Posted by SC blu cat lady on 5-12-2012 at 02:38 PM · [top]

SC blu cat lady—Just to clarify, Obama will win in our heavily Democrat county in November, but the margin will be down. 

But there is no way he will win in North Carolina, which he just barely won in 2008.  Enthusiasm for him is gone, the economy is really bad, and blurting out the truth on his support for gay marriage will not help at all.

[14] Posted by hanks on 5-12-2012 at 05:59 PM · [top]

Thanks, Hank. I wasn’t predicting anything just noting that you thought Obama was headed for a tough time to get re-elected in NC.  Let’s not predict the election results before it happens. A lot can happen before November.

[15] Posted by SC blu cat lady on 5-12-2012 at 07:46 PM · [top]

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