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May 14, 2012

Times are Tough All Over

Times are tough all over. Who can be expected to live on 67% in salary increases and $600,000 (last year alone) for travel and expenses? 

First-class travel. Six-figure salaries for half the 132 officers and staffers. Plenty of plum jobs for family members.
Life is good at the top of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, Iron Ship Builders, Blacksmiths, Forgers and Helpers.
The union, with its headquarters in Kansas City, Kan., represents about 59,000 workers in the U.S. and Canada who make and repair boilers, fit pipes and work on ships and power plants. The recession has hit their trade hard, reducing union membership.
At the same time, the president’s salary has surged 67 percent in the past six years, not counting a recent raise. Add in travel and some other expenses, and Newton B. Jones received more than $600,000 last year, putting him at the absolute top of the presidents of the dozen biggest unions in the country.


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Times are so tough, they vote themselves a raise! Don’t all of us who work had that option!! WOW! I would tie salaries of union presidens to the wages of their members. If wages on average go down, guess what their compensation does too. Only fair.

[1] Posted by SC blu cat lady on 5-14-2012 at 03:03 PM · [top]

We all know being a Communist pays really well if you’re high enough on the ladder.  Just ask Obama.  wink

[2] Posted by Bill2 on 5-14-2012 at 03:10 PM · [top]

If that doesn’t get the boilermakers all steamed up, nothing will.

[3] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 5-14-2012 at 03:25 PM · [top]

Good grief! Even the president of the United States earns only $400,000 annually.

[4] Posted by the virginian on 5-14-2012 at 03:47 PM · [top]

I guess it’s easy to come up with the money if you have a lot of Forgers in your union.

[5] Posted by James Manley on 5-14-2012 at 03:55 PM · [top]

@ #4—Virginian:

True, but keep in mind that, unlike the President, the union head, who presumably finished a boilermaker’s apprenticeship and earned a journeyman’s card, has some useful vocational skills.

[6] Posted by KevinBabb on 5-14-2012 at 04:57 PM · [top]

Unions operate like little socialist/fascist dictatorships existing within a nation.  Or like mafia fiefdoms.  Either way, unions need regulation and reform. 

Right to work states have healthier economies, growth and jobs than union states.

Socialism is like sin - it leads to death.

[7] Posted by St. Nikao on 5-14-2012 at 05:18 PM · [top]

I live in a right to work state, South Carolina. I can tell you ‘right to work” is not the panacea you think. There is the other side of the right to work amendment that never gets discussed. Do you really want to live in a state that can fire you for ANY reason simply because it is a right to work state? IN fact, I am pretty certain that I lost my teaching position because I refused to join the teacher’s union. There is a lot that is NOT discussed. There needs to be a more balanced approach to employment.

[8] Posted by SC blu cat lady on 5-14-2012 at 06:00 PM · [top]

Do you really want to live in a state that can fire you for ANY reason simply because it is a right to work state?

I love it when people throw that card on the table.  Because such folks do not stop to think that something like 80% of the work force lives under that rule of business.  And why not?  If someone has invested their money, their life, their blood, sweat, and tears into a business that is their baby, why shouldn’t they have the right to fire anyone who shows any tendency to threaten what they have built?

If you deliver value to such a business, firing is one of the few things you should have to worry about.  Layoff because of a crappy economy?  Sure, but not firing.

[9] Posted by Capt. Father Warren on 5-14-2012 at 07:56 PM · [top]

RE: “Do you really want to live in a state that can fire you for ANY reason simply because it is a right to work state?”


Jobs are owned by the owners of the companies that offer the jobs.

In regards to public school jobs—the owners of the companies are the tax paying citizens and there should be no unions at all in the case of government/public jobs. So that takes care of that.

[10] Posted by Sarah on 5-14-2012 at 09:30 PM · [top]

I live in a Right to Work state and I’d not have it any other way.  I once worked for a company with a union which I did join so I’d have support when dealing with management but I didn’t partisipate in any activities and I didn’t give money to any PAC.  I also found when I needed support from the union local, I didn’t get it. The national newsletter made a good trash can liner each month. What a waste of my union dues it was.

[11] Posted by bob+ on 5-14-2012 at 11:43 PM · [top]

Thank goodness SF has raised this issue. The toil the economy has taken on us all has been forgotten, like giving up vintage Chateau Margaux for a blended Chateau Ducru-Beaucaillou, flying first class instead of having the NetJets perk, or being forced to take a full size rental instead of a limo. I can’t begin to tell you the last week I ate Filet Mignon and fresh Lobster three times in a row. And the dinner parties, oh the dinner parties! The used to be engagements of elegance with Christal and caviar. Now they have turned into business casual affairs with the latest ‘green wines’, cage free meats (thank goodness for Antelope, served rare with toast points), and organic greenery - least the OWS folks sniff us out and protest loudly! I can’t wait until the salary adjustments return to sane levels and the hippies return to CA (keep passing the medicinal laws, Jerry!).

[12] Posted by Festivus on 5-15-2012 at 03:33 PM · [top]

I don’t know. I know good people who were fired for no reason yet because it is in a ‘right to work state’, they have no legal recourse against an employer. That is what is cruel. So those of you who own business think of employees simply as people to be used and then when they are inconvenient (for whatever reason), they can be fired - problem person gone. I am not fond of unions and realize the waste and incompetence in them but some times business can go too far in thinking of employees of something to be gotten rid off on a whim esp if the business owners wants to pay less for the same work. Fire the experienced worker and hire someone less experienced for less money. Then they get too much experience repeat…....  I hope there are some businesses who still value employees…...

[13] Posted by SC blu cat lady on 5-15-2012 at 04:14 PM · [top]

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