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June 12, 2012

Haters gonna hate (and dysfunctionals gonna dysfunction)

An Episcopal priest and deputy to the upcoming General Convention says:

“We are in chronic, long-term, unfocused conflict.  Just at the time when the long-running conflict over the place of gays and lesbians in the church seems to be heading toward a settlement, people who were once on the same side of that issue are in conflict with each other over a new set of issues.  We have lost trust in each other as faithful servants of Jesus.” 

It’s worth going to the link and reading her whole piece.  It’s about how the church is absorbed in all kinds of issues while unable (or unwilling) to proclaim Jesus Christ to the world.

When I was in seminary, I was part of the hapless bunch that gawked while activists “stirred the pot” for cause after cause.  The energy and effort of the seminary, and thus the formation of clergy who would go out into the church from it, was all about “issues.”  Jesus was little more than a symbol by which to illustrate each faction’s cause.

Whatever your position on any of “the issues,” you have to be either willfully ignorant, insane or evil to deny that The Episcopal Church handles controversy in a way that destroys the church;

Throwing down difficult and divisive issue after difficult and divisive issue without constructive resolution of any.

Creating fights for the sake of fighting, and turning allies into enemies to do so.

There is much fruitless argument about leadership, structure and order in this dysfunctional denomination.  Let’s up and admit what we are:


We are ruled by craziness.  Crazy stuff done by unstable people.  The whole system, especially the way in which we select leaders (ordained and lay) seems rigged to perpetuate that.  And the results are constant, predictable and obvious.

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Moon worshippers are going to have an issue with the use of the word “Lunacracy.”

[1] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 6-12-2012 at 09:05 AM · [top]

Pewster, I hate to admit it, but when I was at GTs in the mid 80s the womyn held some kind of “full moon liturgy.”  I complained to the Dean.  That particular show closed (at least it wasn’t advertised again), but there were so many other performing troupes on campus that it hardly mattered.

[2] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 6-12-2012 at 09:13 AM · [top]

Oh those poor delegates.  Imagine having to sit through that 10-day long funeral service in Indianapolis.

[3] Posted by midwestnorwegian on 6-12-2012 at 05:18 PM · [top]

Midwest norwegian, There are probably plenty of these delegates who would prefer to sit thru a 10 day funeral service than General Convention in Indianapolis this summer.

[4] Posted by SC blu cat lady on 6-12-2012 at 05:27 PM · [top]

It is an interesting read. The Revolution is over and now idealists like this woman are realizing “Hey, Mr. Lenin doesn’t seem to be keeping his promises”. Unfortunately they are in the minority.

[5] Posted by SpongJohn SquarePantheist on 6-12-2012 at 06:43 PM · [top]

Not at all, midwest norwegian. In my experience, the vast, vast majority of GC deputies look forward to nothing more than attending and taking “prophetic action” every three years. Where else could they find such a large gathering of like-minded True Believers? It is within the confines of the convention hall—and only there—that they can enjoy the safety of the borg mind that still intones that All Is Well in TEc even in the face of massive cuts to budgets and ministry. For these folks, GC offers the best 10 days they’ve had since 2009.

[6] Posted by polycarp on 6-12-2012 at 07:19 PM · [top]

Oh well, it was nice knowing Ms Snook.  She’‘ll be deposed or denounced or something within the next couple of years.

[7] Posted by MichaelA on 6-12-2012 at 11:21 PM · [top]

While Ms Snook may get what the church is supposed to be about, there are many who are *true believers* in the social justice/role model Jesus.  That Jesus is, as many of us know, a distortion of the real Jesus. This reminds of what C S Lewis wrote in one of his books- He is either Lord, Liar or Lunatic. Now we could add Jesus as role model to the distortions or lies. TEC is now so irreversibly connected to this social justice angle that when someone points it out to them , they can not see what is wrong.  Many national leaders in TEC are so deluded they don’t recognize it. Sad but not unexpected given the decades it took to get to this point.

[8] Posted by SC blu cat lady on 6-13-2012 at 06:15 AM · [top]

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