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July 17, 2012

Boy Scouts Refuse to Bend on Homosexuality

The Boy Scouts of America have apparently been re-evaluating their policy regarding homosexuals participation over the last two years, and after careful consideration have decided to stick to their guns. According to NBC News:

The Boy Scouts of America will keep their controversial policy banning gay scouts and leaders after a confidential two-year review, the organization said Tuesday.

The announcement comes amid a stepped-up campaign from activist groups urging an end to the membership guidelines.

“The vast majority of the parents of youth we serve value their right to address issues of same-sex orientation within their family, with spiritual advisers, and at the appropriate time and in the right setting,” said Bob Mazzuca, Chief Scout Executive of the Boy Scouts. “While a majority of our membership agrees with our policy, we fully understand that no single policy will accommodate the many diverse views among our membership or society.”

An Eagle Scout who is the son of two lesbians denounced the decision:

[Zach] Wahls denounced what he said was “the secretive nature surrounding how this conclusion was reached” and called the announcement “old news.”

“We’ve heard this line before, and we’ll hear it again before this is all said and done. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: this will be the official BSA policy up until the day it finally ends,” he said in an email to msnbc.com. “Regardless of your thoughts on homosexuality, surely we can agree that gay people who serve our troops and communities deserve our respect and gratitude.”

If I get his point, he’s saying that there are homosexuals serving as troop leaders contrary to the rules of the organization. If that is in fact what he’s saying, then they don’t “deserve our respect and gratitude.” What they are doing is teaching their charges that it’s OK to ignore the rules of a private organization when it suits you, and insert yourself where you are not supposed to be. I have no problem with Wahls trying to convince the Boy Scouts to change their policy, but as usual the gay rights approach is to break the rules, try to change the facts on the ground, and then force their way in to an organization, rather than use persuasion. Oh, that and name-call at the top of their lungs—here are a few of the comments left at the story:

“The US Military accepts gays, the Boy Scouts do not. They are a hate group.”

“The Boy Scouts are now officially a hate group.”

“They should be banned from all tax payer funded environments from now on since they are now considered a religious organization.”

“They are now on the wrong side of history. Too bad they will be looked back on as bigots.”

“Wow, some of the most amazing people I know happen to be gay. This is discrimination and hatred and a bad example for children…”

You get the idea. The voices of tolerance, again incapable of dealing with anyone who might dissent from sexual orthodoxy.

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[1] Posted by Jim the Puritan on 7-17-2012 at 06:07 PM · [top]

“The son of two lesbainas” is an oxymoron.
The Boy Scouts already are banned from some schools because of their policies, but they don’t seem to be too disturbed by that. They seem to be functioning quite well. Good for them for sticking to their guns! My husband and I are members of the troop committee of our local Scout troop, and have been active in Scouting since our boys were involved years ago. We went through quite a controversy in our current troop about 10 years ago. The Scoutmaster and a couple of committee members decided it was wrong of the Scouts to demand that the oath includes duty to God, and also that the Scouts won’t allow homosexual scoutmasters. I presented a reasoned argument at committee meeting, pointing out, among other thigns, that the Supreme Court had already ruled that the BSA is a private organization and can make the rules about duty to God. The good guys won that one easily, although the whole thing amde the local paper and there was quite a bit of resentment on the part of the Soutmaster and committee members who were outvoted. They resigned from the troop - in fact, from scouting.

[2] Posted by Nellie on 7-17-2012 at 06:35 PM · [top]

Why don’t homosexuals just form their own Rainbow Scouts, or Junior Giblets, or whatever they want to call it, and then everyone can be happy.  Can’t we all just get along?

[3] Posted by Jim the Puritan on 7-17-2012 at 06:38 PM · [top]

Using the case of “two lesbians” is a dodge. The greater concern is with predatory males. But why expect NBC to be objective about this?

“The announcement comes amid a stepped-up campaign from activist groups urging an end to the membership guidelines.”

It’s grotesque and comical: like wolves protesting the fact that farmers won’t hire them to take care of the poultry. The sheer eagerness with which homosexuals keep trying to infiltrate the scouts is so creepy it’s self defeating.

[4] Posted by SpongJohn SquarePantheist on 7-17-2012 at 06:52 PM · [top]

Someone should ask why the Girl Scouts do not allow a man to be in the presence of girl scouts without a woman leader being present to watch him.  They have figurehead male “leaders,” but all operate under the (literal) oversight of a female “co-leader.’

[5] Posted by Jim the Puritan on 7-17-2012 at 07:28 PM · [top]

Good for the Boy Scouts!!!!!

[6] Posted by Br. Michael on 7-17-2012 at 07:52 PM · [top]

Good point, Jim[5]. Interesting double standard.

[7] Posted by Nellie on 7-17-2012 at 08:20 PM · [top]

So, the boy scouts demonstrate moral courage and integrity, and the liberals can’t cope with that.  All respect and praise to the BSA.

[8] Posted by MichaelA on 7-17-2012 at 08:43 PM · [top]

It’s not like gays don’t have their own groups.  I read not too long ago about a gay softball league in, I think, San Francisco that made a team kick out a bunch of players because they were merely bisexual.  True story.

[9] Posted by Jeffersonian on 7-17-2012 at 08:49 PM · [top]

Obviously, the BSA leaders have seen what happens in other organizations when you put the standards in the gutter. Total credibility is compromised and the organization loses all relevance. Others should take note.

[10] Posted by Laytone on 7-17-2012 at 10:11 PM · [top]

Good for the Boy Scouts.  Each year a united way time I always direct that my full giving goes to them. I’ve done that I guess for 20 years.

[11] Posted by bob+ on 7-17-2012 at 11:37 PM · [top]

“...and insert yourself where you are not supposed to be.”

Clever, David. Very clever!

[12] Posted by wyclif on 7-18-2012 at 03:53 AM · [top]

How many scout troops across the country have been (and will be) evicted from Episcopal “Church” undercrofts?

[13] Posted by midwestnorwegian on 7-18-2012 at 05:16 AM · [top]

#13 mwn - even worse, there are already municipal governments that won’t let BSA have permits to conduct events in city parks, gyms or other public property.

[14] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 7-18-2012 at 06:05 AM · [top]

Using the case of “two lesbians” is a dodge. The greater concern is with predatory males. But why expect NBC to be objective about this?

That’s exactly the issue.  But we mustn’t say it.  Heaven forbid we point out that we are trying to protect these boys. 

#13 - they won’t be evicted from our parish anytime soon.

[15] Posted by slanehill on 7-18-2012 at 06:20 AM · [top]

Thanks, Wyclif! I wondered if anyone would notice that.  raspberry

[16] Posted by David Fischler on 7-18-2012 at 08:54 AM · [top]

#14 Fr. Tim - Government entities pull this all the time.  It won’t fly in the end, but the BSA will have to get a court order to get access.

As an aside, I ran into this when I coached my daughter’s 6th grade basketball team.  At the orientation meeting, the head of the league passed out affadavits that we had to sigh that said we wouldn’t discriminate on race, sex, age, disability, etc.  When I pointed out that my team was certainly going to discriminate by only allowing 12 year-old females to play, his face reddened visibly and he replied that if we didn’t sign the affadavit, we wouldn’t be allowed to play.  I signed, then announced that I’d be starting at power forward. 

It’s all about making criminals of us all.  We’re easier to control that way.

[17] Posted by Jeffersonian on 7-18-2012 at 08:59 AM · [top]

LOL #17 way to go, Oh troubler of Israel.

My Senior Warden is a regional BSA leader.  Gave him props this a.m. for their stand on this.  He’s 100% in support of their traditional value system.

[18] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 7-18-2012 at 09:27 AM · [top]

#5 “Someone should ask why the Girl Scouts do not allow a man to be in the presence of girl scouts without a woman leader being present to watch him.”

Beat me to it. As I was tossing and turning last night thinking over this issue, this bit of hypocrisy occurred to me.

[19] Posted by SpongJohn SquarePantheist on 7-18-2012 at 11:41 AM · [top]


[20] Posted by Calhoun on 7-19-2012 at 01:22 AM · [top]

Calhoun, what does that mean?

[21] Posted by MichaelA on 7-19-2012 at 03:12 AM · [top]

I think Calhoun is saying that until more adults are willing to take a stand that the homosexual lifestyle is immoral and against God’s Word, the more children are going to be convinced it is okay and acceptable.

[22] Posted by Jim the Puritan on 7-19-2012 at 01:54 PM · [top]

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