Banned in Boston

One’s understanding of Hizzoner’s antipathy is immeasurably improved when one takes into account that married folk overwhelmingly support GOP candidates and singles overwhelmingly support Democratic candidates.

Traditional, married families are far less dependent on the State for support, too, and as my namesake once noted, dependency begets subservience.  This goes deeper than Chick-fil-a (the store near our house is always busy, BTW).

My wife (first wife btw)  wish Chick-fil-a would build in our town.

“You’d think the mayor was afraid of the presence in his city of points of view contrary to his own. You know what that makes him, don’t you?”

So, Mayor Thomas Menino is a narrow-minded bigot.

Okay, I think I got that.

Now that I live in the South, this just makes me want to spend all my restaurant budget at Chick-fil-A.  However I fear this is a subject that is almost lost, so we need to be totally in prayer and trusting in the Lord because even one of my own daughters favors the boycott of Chick-fil-A because she (as a Christian) believes that gay marriage is A-OK.  I can’t see where I failed.  I think that she came to this opinion as she came to know homosexuals at her CHRISTIAN college.  I have had gay friends and colleagues and certainly love all my friends and respect others, but I believe that God is not in favor of that kind of behavior.

Old Lady,

I feel for you. I don’t think you have failed her as much as Hollywood’s sanitized gay propaganda has overwhelmed your influence. Her gay friends from college most assuredly kept the truth about homosexuality from her as well.

So she is getting only the part of the story that gay activists want her to see. I would make sure that she learns the lurid stomach churning facts of the matter. Do your research if you can stomach it about how gay people really live and what their goals truly are. Show her how their demands have grown over the years. Show her what they admit to one another about destroying traditional morality and the traditional family.

What she is getting is “Who is to tell anyone who they can love?” She is getting cute gay couples on TV etc. She is getting “What does it matter what someone does in the privacy of their own homes as long as they are “good” people as if one’s sexual conduct did not reflect on a person’s overall goodness.

Just shooting from the hip here. Hope it helps anyway.

I’ve always enjoyed visiting Boston. But, in recent years, I find myself not in communion with the Bishop of Massachusetts, the Tangerine Queen, who did a “marriage” ritual for a couple of female homosexual priests. Where to go to church on Sunday? Not the famous Trinity Church at Copley Square.

We do have a Chick-fil-A. I’ve never been fond of their chicken sandwiches, but I think that’s where I’ll go for lunch today. I can’t go tomorrow, because they’re not open on Sundays. The owners live their faith.

[2]Bob+, I wish we had a Chick-fil-A here where we lvie, too. I wouldn’t go to any other fast-food place if we did (not that we eat fast food often anyway). I like going to In-n-Out Burger when we visit our son in California because they have Bible verses on their soda cups - not to mention <i>really<> good food.

I am starting a purity movement.  Here’s what I said on fb (where I shared Fischler’s coverage of the issue):

Hopefully all the networks will sign a pledge to not broadcast the Chik-fil-A Bowl. And all the stadiums will pledge to not host it. And all the colleges will pledge to not play in it. And all the players will pledge to not attend schools that ever played in it. And churches will excommunicate any families of any players who ever went to any schools that played in it. I’ll keep working on this list until purity is attained.

[6] Bob—From someone who’s old enough to remember the Phillips Brooks calendars (“so called because it was the style he used,” my thoughts on your question on church in Boston:  Park Street Church at the foot of the Common is orthodox, if not Anglican.  Church of the Advent for Anglo-Catholics, though I have not been there in many years.  Further out, Grace Chapel, Lexington.  There’s an Anglican Mission church in Boston and a number of ACNA churches in the suburbs.

There’s an interesting critique of coverage at Get Religion noting that Mr. Cathy didn’t actually say anything about same-sex marriage.  The reaction is obsessive, and the reporting dishonest.  Business as usual, in other words.

I like Chick-fil-a food, but it’s a little pricey for fast food. What’s great is the service. One day I got a little ignored at the ordering counter, which I didn’t notice in my usual fit of indecision - sandwich or strips?  The manager came over a bit later, apologized and gave me two coupons for free sandwiches.  I’m a customer for life.

You didn’t build that because I didn’t let you.

I’d consider patronizing Chick-fil-A if they didn’t use peanut oil for cooking. Unfortunately, peanuts are a food I must avoid.

@WordMatter Pricey or not, it’s the only fast food that hasn’t made me or my kids physically ill. I’ll pay for that.

Old Lady at #4, just keep your witness pure and don’t be discouraged. It is amazing how often children and grandchildren later acknowledgde that their elders were right about these things.  Be in prayer and give it time.

StayinAnglican
If she is not convinced by the fact that it goes against scripture, then I have failed in her upbringing.  Although the statement that God does not have grandchildren does stick in my mind.  However she takes the rather liberal line that since we are not perfect in other areas (we don’t obey dietary laws, women do not cover their heads, etc.) that we need not follow this one either.  I disagree, of course.  Some things changed as we moved from the OT to the NT and just because we cannot do everything does not mean that we should not strive to do what we can.  Some things I wonder about myself, but gay marriage is not oneof them.

Thank you, MichaelA, hopefully her faith will mature as we go along.

Truett Cathy and his family are truly good Christian people.  Here in Atlanta where the company began, their headquarters provides a no-pay cafeteria for its employees and guests as well as a gym.  They’ve never been open on Sunday, and they send any new Eagle Scout a congratulatory letter with a $100 check.  My son is anxiously looking forward to getting his within the year.

OLd Lady,
I am in agreement with StayinAnglican.  Your granddaughter has been informed by some that “homosexuality is OK because we really love each other and who can be against love?”. You have not failed your granddaughter. Your granddaughter is growing up and must learn to make these sort of decisions and judgements for herself hopefully based on more than just the ‘but we love one another’ argument. 

She does need to be exposed to information about all varieties of homosexuals as well as their “agenda” as StayinAnglican mentioned. While a few may be in faithful and committed relationships, there are many that are not.  Also, does she understand what a perversion homosexual behavior really is??? Does she realize what a problem HIV and AIDS still is among homosexuals? That they are several times more likely to get HIV. I agree with StayinAnglican, if you can stomach it, do your best to explain such things to her.  The place to start would be to peruse the CDC’s website about HIV and AIDS with her.  That has the cold, hard facts about HIV and AIDS. Someone here at Stand Firm mentioned that website as being gruesome. It is because the facts themselves are gruesome. No sugar coating the facts there.

Of course, it would never hurt to give her books that clearly present a Scriptural view.  You may want to consider the book, Homosexuality and the Bible, by Dan O. Via and Robert A. J. Gagnon.  Both authors (and New Testament scholars) express their views and then are allowed a rebuttal to the others point of view. This sort of book with arguments on both sides of the homosexual debate might appeal to her.  As StayinAnglican wrote, keep her in your prayers and hopefully time will allow her to learn about such things in her own way. That is probably the best advice for now. We all have to learn and make decisions for ourself.

Mayor Thomas Menino told the Boston Herald on Thursday that he doesn’t want a business in the city “that discriminates against a population.”

Guess Harvard better move.  I heard that they discriminate against people without high school diplomas or GEDs.

old lady (#15): your grand daughter has fallen for the old “shell fish” argument. She needs to realize that the OT has several layers of laws: dietary, ceremonial, and moral. Jesus Christ as the Son of God fulfilled the OT prophecies and so fulfilled Israel’s adherence to the dietary and ceremonial laws (remember in Acts when Peter has the dream that he can eat all food without fear of disobeying God?). So that is why as Christians we have freedom from the Hebraic law.

But as Jesus fulfilled the dietary and ceremonial laws, He strengthened God’s moral law. When asked about the adultery, He said even lusting in the heart was adultery. The moral laws, which include God’s sacrament of marriage, are enhanced by the Incarnate Word. I hope your grand daughter understands this difference.

AnnieV - that’s terrible! I’ve never gotten sick at fast food, but then I have the constitution (and belly) of a horse.

old lady - it ain’t over till it’s over. They grow up and eventually return to their roots, whatever the social propaganda mill says today.

Branford,
I am old, but not that old yet!  She is just my daughter.  She has quite a good Biblical background and should know and understand all these things.  But I am afraid that even at the Christian colleges these days that a liberal bent has snuck in and she has “forgotten” some of what she should know.  In many areas she is quite sound, but I fear she has had homosexual friends who may very well be lovely people not prone to marching in gay pride parades.  These people have caused her to weaken in this area.

Yes, Words Matter, it is my prayer that she returns to her roots, but this is causing us some unfortunate interactions meanwhile!

Old Lady, Oh dear! My apologies. Where did I get the idea this college student was your granddaughter? Certainly not from your post.  Chances are that she will return to her roots.

I have mis-communicated.  MY fault.  Although I think that my daughter’s faith was liberalized in college, she graduated a few years ago and is now in her 20s and married.  I suppose that I could be her grandmother if we were looking at teen pregnancies. 

Old lady, LOL! Thanks for the clarification. As others have said, chances are pretty good that she will return to her biblical background. I applaud the way you raised her. I wish I could say my childhood faith was grounded in the Bible but that would be a lie. NOW my faith is indeed. Keep up the conversations about difficult topics such as homosexuality, the love and prayers but you already know that.

Back to the original post about Boston’s mayor forbidding Chick-Fil-A from coming to Boston. I saw a Boston Herald editorial by that paper’s editorial staff. They get it!

An excellent editorial from the Herald. Thanks for the link to that!

Marrieds overwhelmingly support the GOP and singles overwhelmingly support the Dems? Really, #26? I’d love to see some compiled, straight-forward, unspun stats proving that marital status alone has much to do with it.

The only thing I could see is that some of the marrieds might be “buy one vote, get one free” if wifey just goes along with hubby’s choice. That has a lot to do with age, education, and social strata, though.

Anyhoo, this whole issue is ridiculous, and I just read that an alderman in Chicago is trying to do the same thing. Haha, so the Rust Belt that’s been shedding jobs for decades to the South is now judging the beliefs of CEOs to determine whether they’re “worthy” of opening stores in their cities?

Weird that these cities have always had a porn section. And companies that fleeced people and have demonstrated stinky corporate values IN PRACTICE continue to be welcome. But, wait ... does this mean that any CEO who’s had an affair or who admits to being a swinger or addict or compulsive gambler will have his or her permits denied?