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October 28, 2012


Cosmology and Theism

An excellent post over at Irregular Webcomic,

Why do some sensible-seeming folk have beliefs which have no generally accepted scientific basis? In particular, why do some people who generally come across as intelligent and logical go and “spoil” it all by expressing a belief in God?

It can be easy to dismiss such beliefs as superstitious nonsense without a second thought, especially when the belief is accompanied by an actively anti-scientific viewpoint, as it too often is.

But what if rational, scientific folk are some of the people who hold such beliefs? Is this notion a contradiction in terms? Apparently not - some critical thinkers, mathematicians, and scientists, even Nobel prize winners, profess to hold such beliefs. Why? This is not only an enormous question to answer, but it’s a question whose answer varies from individual to individual.

Indeed, this really has to be addressed. The number of self-professed “sceptics” and “rationalists” who I’ve met who would so readily denounce the intellectual capacity of Nobel Prize winners is astounding. At some point you have to stop and ask yourself what’s going on. And this post does exactly that by laying out the different approaches to knowledge…

Before we get to that more narrow question, I need to explain a few terms.

Theism in its broadest sense is a belief in the existence of one or more deities, or Gods. It’s a belief in an intelligent supernatural power, often one presumed to exist outside the observable universe. Theism is a necessary part of most religions, but does not imply an entire system of beliefs and practices as religion generally does.

Methodological naturalism is the assumption that all causes are empirical (experimentally testable) and naturalistic (stemming from the laws of nature). It’s part of the foundation that allows you to do science: things you can measure and quantify are things you can develop theories and identify laws about.

Ontological naturalism is the belief that all causes are empirical and naturalistic. That is, not only are untestable or “supernatural” causes outside the bounds of science, they are outside the bounds of possibility; such causes do not, and cannot exist.

From these definitions, it follows that all scientists are methodological naturalists, whether theistic or not. It also doesn’t make sense to be both a theistic scientist and an ontological naturalist; by definition, the two viewpoints are contradictory.

That’s profoundly helpful because, as others have pointed out, the real conflict here is not between science and non-reason but one’s view of epistemology.

The article then goes on to fairly describe some objections to ontological naturalism and then concludes…

Although philosophical theism and ontological naturalism are mutually exclusive worldviews, the philosophical pursuit of each shares some of the same goals. Namely, to reason about how questions of existence, which go beyond the realms of science, might be answered. With apologies to Arthur C. Clarke[2], two possibilities exist: either we are in a universe which was created, or one which was not. Both are equally terrifying. But both possibilities are also solid grounds for wonder. So next time you have a free moment, why not spend a few moments considering the amazing universe we find ourselves in - one way or another?

All in all, a great and fair piece which seeks only to set out the issues for all to understand. Oh that some of our “scientific” and “learned” opponents would have even this level of epistemic humility.


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I would make one comment. From the article (which otherwise is reasonable)

Methodological naturalism is the assumption that all causes are empirical (experimentally testable) and naturalistic (stemming from the laws of nature). It’s part of the foundation that allows you to do science: things you can measure and quantify are things you can develop theories and identify laws about.

I don’t think that it is necessary to assume that all causes are empirical and naturalistic for scientific study; only those causes you (or a colleague) happens to be studying. I don’t think that there is nothing wrong with saying “This particular thing is not scientifically testable, therefore I won’t try to understand it using the tools of science, or entirely using the tools of science (though I might hope to understand it using other, more applicable, methods—with my understanding informed as necessary by scientific progress in related areas); so I will study something else which my methods are useful for).”

[1] Posted by Boring Bloke on 10-28-2012 at 11:21 PM · [top]

Thanks BB- that’s helpful. They write “it’s part of the foundation…” so I think I want to acknowledge that they’re sensitive to the wider argument.

[2] Posted by David Ould on 10-28-2012 at 11:43 PM · [top]

Stephen Barr (a physicist), in Modern Physics and Ancient Faith, uses the term “materialism” where this article uses “ontological naturalism.”  He says “the conflict is not between religion and science, it is between religion and materialism.”

I too am a physicist.  I have been touched much more closely by the Spirit of God than by any of my equations.  In the light of the certainty of God’s existence, all the physics that I study just magnifies His glory. 

The relationship between theism (both modern theism (MT) and God-of-the-Gaps theism (GotG)) and naturalism (both ON and MN) has been through the following epochs:
  a) pre-Newton:  ON and MN are unknown or unviable ->  GotG is only choice
  b) Newton-Darwin:  MN is very successful; ON is not viable (can’t explain complexity - Paley) -> GotG is viable but under attack as gaps close
  c) Darwin-Heisenburg: MN is viable; ON looking more viable (great success of natural selection in explaining complexity); GotG suffers as gaps close; MT less viable because Newtonian physics is causal
  d) Heisenburg-present: MN is viable; ON continues to be viable (astronomy gives insights into the early universe) but expensive (e.g. requires near-infinity of universes); GotG not viable; MT fully viable again because quantum uncertainty leaves “room for God”

[3] Posted by Michael D on 10-29-2012 at 12:55 AM · [top]

I agree with #3.  My academic training was in mathematics and physics [long ago].  Part of my conversion experience was the realization that God and His creative work was manifested in the equations I studied and in the outcomes those equations pointed to.  No matter how beautiful the equations and the relationships of of the universe they seemed to explain; the true work of God was all the more beautiful and truly magnificient.  Rather than a conflict I saw a symbiotic relationship, or perhaps more accurately, an ontological relationship between religion and science.

[4] Posted by Capt. Father Warren on 10-29-2012 at 08:15 AM · [top]

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