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December 27, 2012


Lord George Carey’s 2012 Address to the Society for the Study of Anglicanism in Chicago

Over at T19, Kendall Harmon featured an address to the “Society for the Study of Anglicanism” by former Archbishop of Canterbury, George Carey. The confab appears to have occurred in partnership with Frank Griswold, the former Presiding Bishop of The Episcopal Church.

In his address, Lord Carey states:

I am delighted to be with you today and especially to share in a friendly debate with my former Primatial colleague and friend, Frank Griswold. Frank and I have shared in the mission of the church for many years and even though we differ on some things there is much we are agreed about. And it is on agreement that I wish to start. It is understandable that when Christians sharply disagree the issues often seem to be church dividing. But this conclusion should be questioned. When Christians are united theologically in a Trinitarian faith, in a Christocentric vision of God and in the doctrinal creeds inherited from the past, how can we be enemies? The theological unity we already share is surely secure enough to hold us together. The common desire that Frank and I share is for a strong Anglican Communion, living the faith and sharing it with all.

Frank Griswold does not believe or promote the Gospel and he meticulously and calculatedly did not do so during his reign as Presiding Bishop. He is a gross and unrepentant heretic.  He manipulated, schemed, and dissembled in his efforts and in his rhetoric throughout his long and sordid reign as Presiding Bishop. Carey and Griswold do *not* share “in the mission of the church” nor are they “united theologically in a Trinitarian faith, in a Christocentric vision of God and in the doctrinal creeds inherited from the past”—and not by a long long shot either.  Frank Griswold’s false religion was documented time and time again during his tenure and it is not recognizably Christian at all.  The fact that Carey never recognized—and still does not—that he and Frank Griswold are not brothers in Christ—and not remotely so—certainly goes a long way in explaining why we are where we are in the Anglican Commuion

Regrettably there are some in both ACNA and TEC who are as undiscerning and clueless. The fact that they are or were “leaders” is such a pity.

Periodically, members of the StandFirm blogging team observe—quietly—various traditional Anglicans behaving incompetently and buffoonishly. Most of the time we sigh, skype the link to one another, and usually include the words “These are our allies.”

Instead of merely skyping that to my blogging friends, I’m saying it here out loud on this blog.

Archbishop Carey.

He’s one of our “allies.”


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Lord Carey made a typo. It should read “The Society for the Study of Anglicanism.”

After reading the address I am left with the impression that the problem with Anglicans is that in order to engage in a friendly debate they have to first shut God out of the room by agreeing to not argue over scripture and to focus on “relationship”.

[1] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 12-27-2012 at 09:34 AM · [top]

Thanks for pointing that out—I deleted the “in” . . .

[2] Posted by Sarah on 12-27-2012 at 09:49 AM · [top]

#1 Quite right!  We are constantly admonished to be measured in our rhetoric as “we certainly do not want to lose our place at the table” which no doubt we would were we not so to be.  We love being at the table:  Inadaba (whatever) or Blah blah as the situation merits.

[3] Posted by aacswfl1 on 12-27-2012 at 11:24 AM · [top]

From Merriam-Webster Online:

in·sti·tu·tion·al·ism |noun|

1 : emphasis on organization (as in religion) at the expense of other factors

The “other factors” in this case being Christian truth, faith, order, and morality.

[4] Posted by ToAllTheWorld on 12-27-2012 at 06:32 PM · [top]

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