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October 16, 2016

Sliding Down the Slippery Slope

Unintended consequences or intended results

Two things that stand out to me, besides the “told ya” point all of us maligned panic mongers can claim: One, the staff person interviewed said, “We want everyone to feel comfortable at our facilities.” Well, the woman who asked him to leave did not feel comfortable with a man changing in the women’s locker room. Nor did the young girls’ swim team or their mothers who were in the locker room when he returned to assert his legal right to change in the women’s space. When does their comfort count?

Or if a rape survivor was in the locker room at the time, would her discomfort count? The trigger warnings that now blanket our public discussion actually became popular because feminists wanted to advertise that they cared about rape victims. (Ponder for a second that they felt they needed to advertise that fact.) So are we supposed to accept discussion restraints because someone might talk about rape in the presence of a victim but brush away any concern for past victims actually confronted with a male in spaces where women get naked?

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Opponents of the Charlotte ordinance, and proponents of HB2 in North Carolina, have pointed out exactly this situation.  People suffering gender dysphoria, who have had themselves surgically altered and are taking hormones to match their imagined new sex, can ALREADY use bathrooms and locker rooms associated with their imagined new sex.  What we are worried about is men who have NOT altered themselves taking advantage of the law to engage in voyeurism and/or assault.

And no, making women uncomfortable no longer matters.

[1] Posted by Katherine on 10-17-2016 at 11:33 AM · [top]

Exactly, Katherine. We knew a woman in a small town where we used to live who had had the surgery and hormones, and you’d never know she’d been a man. (Of course, everyone in town did know - because it was a small rural town! To my knowledge, no one treated her badly.) She would never have raised an eyebrow going into the ladies’ rest room or fitting room. I think part of the tactics of the left involves lumping these people with others who merely “identify” as whatever they want to.

[2] Posted by Nellie on 10-17-2016 at 01:48 PM · [top]

The “Bathroom Bill” was one way to stop this madness but has had a big bull’s eye painted on it by those who would redefine sexual identity to mean gender identity. I wonder if there are any different ways of legislating locker room safety that would ever satisfy these folks. I don’t think so. Though they won’t admit it, this all will ultimately lead to unisex bathroom and locker rooms. I accidentally wound up in one of t hose restrooms in the French Quarter in the 70’s. Both of us had to go very urgently so I don’t think there was any risk to either of us. Laws like the one the Charlotte City Council passed that aim to eliminate discrimination by allowing anyone who decides on any given day which gender they identify as being have such broad applicability that public school kids are at serious risk because of the “public” nature of their facilities and locker rooms, and the goal of HB2 was an attempt to negate Charlotte’s new law. Those who want to nullify HB2 have no alternative in mind, and they are vigorously opposing those who voted for it.

[3] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 10-17-2016 at 07:25 PM · [top]

Now the odd thing is that this also covers the crossdresser who simply wants to pass as a woman, but “identifies” as a man.  And lets face it most of these people are men who like to dress up for the sexual thrill.

[4] Posted by Br. Michael on 10-19-2016 at 05:37 AM · [top]

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